@kensanata They all share the same nasty property: Centralized infrastructure.
What about this https://about.riot.im ?
If you want a simple messenger with good voice and video calls, Ring is pretty good: https://ring.cx/
It's open source, decentralised and has apps for android and iphone (though make sure you load the right app, there's a totally different app also called Ring that is for a home security system).
Ring also has clients for Mac, Win and Linux.
Of the three you mentioned I'd lean towards Signal, but a lot of people recommend Wire too.
@switchingsocial Ring still sounds very interesting! I'll take a look tomorrow. Thanks for that link.
@switchingsocial I was very curious about Ring (and Retroshare too) a while ago. But had concerns about the need to allow upnp in the router.
I could be wrong but I don't think you have to do that any more?
@switchingsocial I just had a look at the FAQ and it still mentions upnp.
I also reinstalled clients on desktop and phones but couldn't establish a connection.
Maybe other things are wrong, I'm not a tech expert.
Tox was easier, but not the best video quality and a bit heavy on the phone.
@kensanata @balu for me it was too damn slow.
@balu Mainly Iβm not holy with the Riot UI at the moment.